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July 13, 2018, 10:10:00 PM
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HDBitchin

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https://www.jarvish.com/

Said to be coming in 2019.

Here what it claims to be capable of doing...

Advanced Augmented Reality
Voice Activated Heads-Up Display
Voice Activated Retractable Head-up Display
Amazon Alexa Integrated
Carbon Fiber Shell
2K Front Facing Camera
360° Front & Rear Cameras
Noise Reduction Tech
GPS Navigation



July 13, 2018, 10:27:18 PM
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HDBitchin

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On HDBitchin we have had many discussions already on high tech helmets. Here are the HDBitchin threads covering the various players in this field? Follow these links...

Motorcycle Helmet with GPS Navigation Display - LiveMap
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,1391.0.html

BIKEHUD by BIKESYSTEMS
http://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3018.0.html

Skully AR-1, the helmet of the future? (coming in 2014)
http://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,916.0.html

Smallest flexible motorcycle Head-Up Display with cameras (NUVIZ thread)
http://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,2272.0.html

Another High Tech Helmet - Encephalon by Nand Logic
http://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,2931.0.html

High Tech Helmet from Ninox Genesis
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3182.0.html

REYEDR Motorcycle HUD
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,4738.0.html

BMW look to the future with heads-up display helmet
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3335.0.html

Borderless CrossHelmet X1 - HUD Motorcycle Helmet
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,4877.0.html

Another smart helmet contender, Intelligent Cranium Helmets, the iC-R project
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,4753.0.html

N-Com ARX Helmet from Nolan and Sony
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,4192.0.html

Another High Tech Helmet from FUSAR
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3971.0.html

Seemore HUD Motorcycle Helmet
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3998.0.html

Samsung Smart Windshield for Motorcycles
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3554.0.html

Heads-up display mod kit for helmets
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php?topic=5094.0

July 14, 2018, 11:22:04 AM
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It looks interesting but this market is becoming crowded and no one seems to have delivered any product yet.
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July 15, 2018, 10:44:23 AM
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WantMore

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It looks interesting but this market is becoming crowded and no one seems to have delivered any product yet.
This market seems to be getting crowded with a bunch of promises and nothing else.
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July 15, 2018, 10:47:22 AM
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  As far as pricing goes, I found this online yesterday.

  "If you sign up now for a pre-order, you’ll get 35 percent of the full $1,320, which is a damn good deal, compared to buying a carbon helmet and attempting to tack all of these extras on afterward.

BUY NOW: $1,320 $858".

  The rest of the article can be found here:

https://gearpatrol.com/2018/07/13/most-advanced-motorcycle-helmet-jarvish-x-ar/
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November 27, 2018, 09:00:58 PM
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Jarvish launched a Kickstarter campaign today and already reached their goal. Here is a link to their Kickstarter page...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/308263621/jarvish-the-smartest-motorcycle-helmet-ever-made

My money is on LiveMap.

January 03, 2019, 07:14:26 PM
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Jarvish recently did a live stream on their kick starter campaign website. It is a 60 minute long video but they do go into plenty of details. Here is a link that will allow you to replay it...

https://live.kickstarter.com/jarvish/live-stream/live-jarvish-team-talks-smart-helmet

Some notes I took while watching the video playback follows:

One negative is they have a small waveguide piece of glass that drops down by a motor in front of the left eye that projects an image as if it were 3 meters in front of your eye. It is not a full HUD in the visor.

Another negative is when the rider's speed exceeds 100 kph (61 mph) they will retract the waveguide glass up into the helmet's pocket or home position for safety. What?? That is not a positive feature that I would like but I think they might not be able to certify it unless they do this BS.

The current Kickstarter goal was at $50,000 but has accumulated $371,000. This low initial Kickstarter amount was for certification of the electronics being tested in an existing LAZER brand helmet that already has DOT and ECE certification. They claim their helmet is finished and the design is now just needing to be tested for safety.

http://www.lazerhelmets.com/

They are still working on a photochromic visor for their helmet.

It has a rear camera that projects on the Waveguide glass when needed or called for.

It has rear brake lights on the outside of the helmet that sense the need to illuminate.

They claim the battery will run 6 hours without AR and 4 with AR on a full charge.

They are developing a wireless battery pack that will attach to the outside of the helmet that will add 2 more hours of use.

Motorcycle engine parameters/data could be displayed but that is currently not being done but they are considering doing it.

The LAZER helmet will ship with two liners for custom fitting of the helmet. One liner is a thick one and the other is a thin liner.

The helmet understands 30 voice commands in "all" languages. These commands are similar in structure to Siri and Google voice commands that you might be already familiar with.

Bluetooth connectivity to products like SENA is not yet done.

They use a low power WiFi system in the helmet to talk to your smartphone instead of Bluetooth as Bluetooth is slow. (GoPro cameras do this as well)

They will be adding noise cancellation in the helmet to reduce wind and road noise.

Right now the navigation is a choice of either Siri or Google from your smartphone so get ready to eat your phone's data plan and battery (deal breaker for me). An integrated Nav system is said to be coming.



January 04, 2019, 12:12:27 PM
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So as some of you know I am in close contact with the owner and designer of the LiveMap HUD Helmet. In fact, I announced in the LiveMap thread here on HDBitchin I will travel to Las Vegas next week to attend the 2019 CES as LiveMap’s brand ambassador.

The owner of LiveMap and myself have been going back and forth discussing via email about the Jarvish Kickstarter live stream that I linked above in the previous post.

What is interesting is that LiveMap worked with LAZER years ago on their first prototype helmet. At that time LAZER told LiveMap that rigid parts could not be placed into the shell material in the top of the helmet without compromising the safety certification of the helmet. LAZER did say that rigid materials could be placed into the chin and cheek areas without voiding their ECE and DOT certs.

Now here we have Jarvish who is using an existing LAZER product that is ECE and DOT compliant and somehow affixing their waveguide glass and motor in the helmet’s top shell?

I wonder how the addition of the electronic hardware which would seemingly be placed into the shell can pass DOT and ECE testing? If LiveMap was told that rigid hardware could not be placed into the top shell of the helmet, how is Jarvish going to pass safely?

In the above thread I already reported what Jarvish would have to do when the rider’s speed reaches 61 MPH, the waveguide glass would retract. So when you get up to freeway speeds you lose your display. Not an optimal design in my opinion. I would think they have no choice but to retract the glass to have any chance of passing the safety certs.

Below I have attached 3 pictures (only visible if you are a logged in member) of LiveMap’s visit of LAZER with the CEO and CTO of LAZER when they were working on their first prototype.


January 10, 2019, 05:09:26 AM
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HDBitchin

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As said in the previous post LiveMap has shared with me that putting rigid parts as Jarvish is doing in their helmet’s upper shell area is most likely not going to allow the helmet to pass ECE and DOT safety standards.

I don’t know how Jarvish will get this certified to safety standards.



Jarvish Helmet pictures...







The other issue that Jarvish has in my opinion is that this optic will retract when the rider reaches a speed of 100 kph or 61 mph. To me that is disappointing as it makes the whole idea of the helmet useless at highway speed. I suspect that they know that they must retract it for higher speeds for safety reasons.

Keep in mind they are calling this a HUD hemet design. It is not a true HUD like is found in the technology that LiveMap is using.






January 10, 2019, 10:38:55 PM
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HDBitchin

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The other issue that Jarvish has in my opinion is that this optic will retract when the rider reaches a speed of 100 kph or 61 mph. To me that is disappointing as it makes the whole idea of the helmet useless at highway speed. I suspect that they know that they must retract it for higher speeds for safety reasons.

Keep in mind they are calling this a HUD hemet design. It is not a true HUD like is found in the technology that LiveMap is using.
I spoke with Jarvish today at CES in Las Vegas. They told me that they are providing a setting in the controls that can allow the rider to set the optic so that it will not retract when riding at speeds great than 100 kph (61 mph). The default is retraction at high speeds.

There is one retraction that you can’t override and that is when the rider lifts up the visor up. When the visor is up the optic will retract to ensure that nothing will strike the optic and cause damage to it.


 



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