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February 11, 2018, 02:22:03 PM
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I'm an electrical engineering grad, and I'm a relatively new rider (been riding about three years). In my spare time, I put together a heads-up display for my own personal use. By chance, I took the helmet with me to a motorcycle show last month, and a few people I met said I ought to think about turning it into a mod kit and selling it.

I only have one, so I'm not actually selling it, but I thought I'd share it with the community to get some thoughts on it.

https://imgur.com/6viWKm2.png
Heads-up display mod kit for helmets


https://imgur.com/qsYX4Im.png
Heads-up display mod kit for helmets


The eyepiece displays text in your field-of-view, so you can always keep your eyes on the road. It’ll display your speed, or basic GPS navigation, or both. The HUD pairs via Bluetooth to a smartphone. It looks like this from the inside of the helmet:

https://i.imgur.com/6H43EUn.png
Heads-up display mod kit for helmets


All of the pieces are adjustable and they fit inside any helmet, so you can keep wearing the helmet that you know and like.

It works during the day, at night, and in the rain. All weather, all conditions.

As you can see, there is no frontal aerodynamic impact, because all of the pieces are tucked inside the helmet:

https://imgur.com/f4MToZh.png
Heads-up display mod kit for helmets


https://imgur.com/nbgMqOe.png
Heads-up display mod kit for helmets


As far as safety is concerned, the eyepiece is made out of a ballistics-grade composite. I wouldn’t depend on it to stop an actual bullet, but it’ll definitely hold up in even the most serious impacts.

The pieces are stuck inside the helmet with an incredibly strong adhesive. Once placed, the pieces are damn near impossible to remove. You can try to yank them out, hard, and they won't budge.

The mod doesn’t permanently alter the helmet (i.e. no holes get drilled or anything like that). Removing the adhesive would take some elbow grease, but it’s possible, so it wouldn’t be like you’d permanently maim your helmet with this mod.

Altogether, it costs $135 to put the materials for the kit together.

So, what do you guys think? Do you see yourself buying one of these, if it were available?

February 11, 2018, 02:52:58 PM
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HDBitchin

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I like your idea. It looks like your minimal amount of hardware is going to be a positive. The one thing that you might need to address is the safety aspect of what you are adding to the inside of the helmet. Since items are mounted inside the helmet the concern is that they will stay put in a crash.

A negative is that your design will eat up a person’s data plan on their smartphone. It also means that I need to have my phone plugged in to keep the battery charged for after the ride.

I have done a preorder of the LiveMap because it is self contained and has its own GPS unit (and other built-in features). So I am what you might call an early adopter and really can appreciate what you are doing.

On HDBitchin we have had many discussions already on high tech helmets. Here are the HDBitchin threads covering the various players in this field? Follow these links...

Motorcycle Helmet with GPS Navigation Display - LiveMap
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,1391.0.html

BIKEHUD by BIKESYSTEMS
http://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3018.0.html

Skully AR-1, the helmet of the future? (coming in 2014)
http://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,916.0.html

Smallest flexible motorcycle Head-Up Display with cameras (NUVIZ thread)
http://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,2272.0.html

Another High Tech Helmet - Encephalon by Nand Logic
http://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,2931.0.html

High Tech Helmet from Ninox Genesis
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3182.0.html

REYEDR Motorcycle HUD
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,4738.0.html

BMW look to the future with heads-up display helmet
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3335.0.html

Borderless CrossHelmet X1 - HUD Motorcycle Helmet
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,4877.0.html

Another smart helmet contender, Intelligent Cranium Helmets, the iC-R project
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,4753.0.html

N-Com ARX Helmet from Nolan and Sony
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,4192.0.html

Another High Tech Helmet from FUSAR
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3971.0.html

Seemore HUD Motorcycle Helmet
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3998.0.html

Samsung Smart Windshield for Motorcycles
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php/topic,3554.0.html
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February 11, 2018, 03:24:25 PM
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My helmet and I have this relationship that already tries my patience sometimes.  Wearing glasses, plugging in the com line to the ride connection(2016RGU),getting the com mic in place, flipping the helmet front down/up, checking the visor up/down and sunshade up/down, most while riding.  How much room's left around the hardware on the left and how fixed is the display unit on the right, while I'm trying to ride.

Don't get me wrong!  A lot of us have been looking and waiting for more and it appears that you have your own!  We'd all be interested.  Are you anywhere near the southwest in the states and would you consider a gathering to learn more?  Just a thought!
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February 11, 2018, 09:42:37 PM
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Welcome to the forum. I'm not in the market for what you have done but think what you have done is amazing at only $135.00. Only thing I would worry about marketing is you are messing with a safety item-the helmet and I would worry about law suits because we in a sue happy world.
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February 12, 2018, 11:52:06 AM
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Welcome to the forum!!

As already mentioned the safety concerns will need to addressed if you bring this to the marketplace. Even though you have stated that you have used an "incredibly strong adhesive", professional laboratory testing will need to be done. Moisture and heat conditions that riders will encounter would need to be tested to ensure that the hardware doesn't come off and injure a rider.

The mobile phone battery and data plan usage are also a concern as Tank pointed out. 

Otherwise, I would say one word, impressive!!
Smoke em if you got em

February 12, 2018, 02:49:11 PM
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colin


You guys are the coolest. Thanks for the kind words. I won't clutter up the boards, but I'll keep you guys posted about how things progress.

...

Thanks for putting all of those links together. I'm going to read through all of them.

I've been following LiveMap, too. The fact that everything is all integrated into the helmet is really good, and means that they can really get the form factor right. I'll be looking for your review when they release.

My helmet and I have this relationship that already tries my patience sometimes.  Wearing glasses, plugging in the com line to the ride connection(2016RGU),getting the com mic in place, flipping the helmet front down/up, checking the visor up/down and sunshade up/down, most while riding.  How much room's left around the hardware on the left and how fixed is the display unit on the right, while I'm trying to ride.

Don't get me wrong!  A lot of us have been looking and waiting for more and it appears that you have your own!  We'd all be interested.  Are you anywhere near the southwest in the states and would you consider a gathering to learn more?  Just a thought!

I've got this helmet, and I have a second helmet that's got nothing in it at all. Nothing better than turning everything off for a day or two.

I'm in Toronto, Canada.

Welcome to the forum!!

As already mentioned the safety concerns will need to addressed if you bring this to the marketplace. Even though you have stated that you have used an "incredibly strong adhesive", professional laboratory testing will need to be done. Moisture and heat conditions that riders will encounter would need to be tested to ensure that the hardware doesn't come off and injure a rider.

The mobile phone battery and data plan usage are also a concern as Tank pointed out. 

Otherwise, I would say one word, impressive!!

Good point about the testing. I used the adhesive that GoPro uses, but I'll probably still have to get some kind of regulatory approval for use on the inside of the helmet. Thanks for the tip.

February 13, 2018, 02:34:10 PM
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Welcome to the forum!!

I like what you have done. As you can see by the discussions that HDBitchin (Tank) linked, the forum has had many discussions on the topic of high tech helmets and HUDs for motorcycle helmets.

I look forward to seeing and reading more from you.
Two Lane Highway

February 13, 2018, 09:52:20 PM
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bc45

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Interesting thanks for sharing, keep us posted as you develop your system.
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February 15, 2018, 02:55:13 PM
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I did a few tweaks to the design, based on some of the feedback that I’ve gotten. This is just a design study, so none of the parts actually do anything, but I bet I can work all of that out later.

https://imgur.com/STnZDqS.jpg
Heads-up display mod kit for helmets


https://imgur.com/bVW6oUk.jpg
Heads-up display mod kit for helmets


I ditched the large projector in place of a nano projector (lots of advancements have been made in LCoS projectors, which were used in Google Glass). So, no more impact on peripheral vision.

I also shrank the case:

https://imgur.com/tWysirn.jpg
Heads-up display mod kit for helmets


This can be accomplished by swapping out the battery (I used an 18650) with a flat-pack cell, like the ones used in phones.

I think this is a good direction for this, technologically, unless I’m overlooking something. What do you guys think?
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February 15, 2018, 05:34:08 PM
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Smaller is certainly better. I think if you can reduce the size and the weight that is the way to go.
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February 15, 2018, 09:39:13 PM
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bc45

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That looks a lot less obtrusive
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February 16, 2018, 07:47:24 AM
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WantMore

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Nice progress! Smaller and lighter is the way to go.
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February 16, 2018, 05:44:37 PM
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Looking good! The smaller the better.
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